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262.565.2362       kay@abetterlistener.com

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The MI training has been a wonderful experience. The MI circle discussion group is the perfect blend of learning and interactive group activities. Kay provides insightful MI strategies in small chunks, which is relevant to support and increase successful communication with our students. I recommend this to anyone who wants to become a better communicator!

Sofia M., LPC in Post-Secondary setting 

Kay is that rare jewel of a trainer. She knows MI, understands the spectrum of learners, and matches her training to the needs of the individual and the system. Grounded in a thoughtful, no-nonsense approach, she prepares meticulously and trains passionately. And the glue that holds it all together? Kay is lovely person who connects well with her trainees. She is a gem!

David B. Rosengren, Ph.D. President & CEO, Prevention Research Institute; Author: Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook 

Your MI training sessions truly help to understand how to effectively develop listening skills for the students we serve and how to respond to their questions!

Sandra C., Administrative Assistant in Counseling and Advising office

I am passionate about helping professionals become the most effective listeners they can be, through training in Motivational Interviewing (MI).  I have counseled individuals with disabilities and mental health concerns in both private and public settings.  Currently, in addition to training people in MI, I work as a Disability Specialist at Waukesha County Technical College in Pewaukee, Wisconsin.


I began learning about MI in 2011 and I have been training people in MI since 2013. In 2016, I became a member of the Motivational Interview Network of Trainers (MINT), a professional society promoting excellence in MI. As a MINT Member, I look forward to working with helping professionals on ways to guide clients toward increased motivation and behavior change.



I live in Waukesha, Wisconsin, with my husband Tony and dog Sammi. In my free time, I enjoy reading, gardening, and searching for the perfect cup of chai tea. When not training people in the skills of MI, I can be found trying to motivate our dog Sammi to learn a new trick.

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